Comments on: Warre Hive

By: Au venit albinele | Stanciova

Au venit albinele | Stanciova — Mon, 14 May 2012 07:37:50 +0000

[...] trecut cam pe vremea asta tocmai terminam de construit un stup Warre, activitate nu tocmai dificilă pentru că e proiectat în așa fel încât să nu fie nevoie de [...]

By: Rattlerjake

Rattlerjake — Sun, 08 Apr 2012 17:17:57 +0000

When you go to the Australian guy’s website and look through the site you will find that many of the hives he has are Langstroth hives. He says his Warre hives are divided into several SMALL apiaries. Commercial beekeepers are dealing with hundreds or thousands of hives, not a few dozen. They are harvesting mostly honey or setting hives for pollination by the hundreds. You are looking at hobby or specialty beekeeping when you said, ” I also do not see how the proses of uncapping then centrifuging comb is faster then simply crushing and straining”. Bees have to replace comb that is removed which takes a lot of time, by uncapping and centrifuging you return the comb so that the bees can concentrate on filling it again with honey. Besides, by adding frames to a Warre, you are doing nothing more than making a Warre-Langstroth hybrid hive. Next you make the comment, “… I just don’t like the idea that the only way a commercial farmer can stay afloat is to use chemicals for everything in a totally unsustainable manner, it wont be long before those practises will not work”. You are assuming that chemicals are used all the time. Most beekeepers only use chemicals when needed, and whether you are organic or not there are problems bees have, like Nosema, mites, foulbrood, etc. where chemical treatment is necessary or you WILL loose your hive.

By: Nick

Nick — Sun, 08 Apr 2012 17:01:31 +0000

Hi Sam, Thanks for your comments. Using a Warre for commercial purposes is is not impossible, it’s impractical. The cost of wax in regards to honey production is too high IMHO. Even the use of full foundationless frames doesn’t offset this. I did check the links and the guy in Australia is using lots of lang hives too, probably for honey production.

I don’t like the idea that some commercial beeks use so many chemicals either, especially when they don’t have to.

By: Sam Smith

Sam Smith — Sun, 08 Apr 2012 12:03:16 +0000

I disagree with the idea that a warre hive cannot be used commercially there are a few examples of a commercial model, this guy is using warre hives in Australia. malfroysgold.com.au, plus Émile Warré kept a lot of different hive types himself.
And there is no reason why one can not use frames in a warre without foundation, I know there is a group in LA promoting foundation-less beekeeping. backwardsbeekeepers.com. I also do not see how the proses of uncapping then centrifuging comb is faster then simply crushing and straining.
I guess I just don’t like the idea that the only way a commercial farmer can stay afloat is to use chemicals for everything in a totally unsustainable manner, it wont be long before those practises will not work.

By: Rattlerjake

Rattlerjake — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:42:21 +0000

Here’s one of the videos:
http://youtu.be/BmYE7UxVuXI

By: Rattlerjake

Rattlerjake — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:30:05 +0000

My bad, It’s A Golden Hive. There is a straw sided version, and wooden sided version, can find on YouTube. Built it to see for myself how they work. It’s OK, nothing great. The bees are less likely to swarm and leave because there is plenty of room.

By: Rattlerjake

Rattlerjake — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:17:54 +0000

I found it on YouTube, type in Garden Hive. Its just a big box with an entrance, inside the top is waxcloth, and the frames are really large. It’s not made to be moved around, but in a permanent location.

By: Bob Groves

Bob Groves — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 09:40:00 +0000

I am using a Warre hive and 4 Mod Nationals, but just what is a ‘garden hive’ ??
Bob.

By: Rattlerjake

Rattlerjake — Mon, 02 Apr 2012 16:53:47 +0000

But, I have to say, I built two Warre hives, a top bar, and a garden hive (I belong to a beekeepers club and did it to show other club members how they look, and work), and they are great ornamental features for the garden, and great for harvesting comb honey for you, your family, and friends.